“I am still learning, which keeps it fresh”: Interview with film still photographer JoJo Whilden

Christian Bale in “The Fighter”, 2010. Paramount Pictures. Photo by JoJo Whilden.

 

Watching a film, the moving picture, you can travel the world, its diversity and richness. You can also travel the whole spectrum of emotions. At the same time, a movie still, that photograph taken on or off set, offering a time capsule of film history, and maybe, with skill and sensibility, the soul of the whole film, has the power to make us stop and just stare in awe, vividly connecting memories and audiences of all ages. Amidst today’s excess of imagery that is threatening to engulf us yet consistently fails to grab our attention, let alone tell a story, that’s almost magical.

During film production, a still photographer often needs to be the fly on the wall, recording the film as it’s being made, a scene as it’s presented, but also waiting and instantly recognising a potential, something immediate, a unique moment, before editing and special effects, faithful in their eye and in capturing the story that the director is creating with his or her actors. The still photographer is incredibly quiet and gentle, watchful and patient, feisty and determined, even between takes, capturing the candid, earnest moments from behind the scenes, of intimacy, vulnerability, playfulness, shyness or bravado. Yes, they have license to shoot behind the scenes, but the tricks of the trade are not revealed, but rather actors, the faces who become larger than life on the big screen, making us live a thousand lives, become human again, and the craftsmen behind them become visible – often times you see men and women hard at work, the scale of a movie, and sometimes you feel you are glistening through a window into a dreamlike setting for someone’s fantasy in the making.

My guest today, set photographer JoJo Whilden (High Art, The Fighter, Certain Women, Still Alice, Rabbit Hole, The Silver Linings Playbook, A Late Quartet), joins me to discuss the specifics of still photography, reflects on her beginnings in photography and film in the New York City of the 1990s, recounts how she was allowed to watch Psycho at the cinema as a child, and shares her approach to fulfilling studio requests while trusting her own artistic instincts in capturing images that unfailingly represent the story and the characters. Although I believe the most faithful definition would be images that capture the spirit of the story or the character. Because it is her deep understanding and love of art and film that makes JoJo Whilden’s photography not just important, but very special, too. She deeply cares about the people she photographs, about everyone melding together on the set, about cinema being so unique, about the films she becomes part of, as a witness and ultimately as a prime architect – it’s usually the still photographs that will iconize the film and will stay with us beyond the end credits, and beyond the big screen.

 

Patricia Clarkson in “High Art”, 1999. October Films. Photo by JoJo Whilden

 

High Art, your first feature film, just had its 25th anniversary this past fall. How did you get to work on it and do you remember what the experience was like?

I was asked to work on High Art because the director was my best friend in college, simple as that. Of course there was little to no money involved, it was purely a creative project for me. I was involved early in the script development and shaping the character of the photography. I remember the experience very well. It was a hot, sweaty summer in NYC and we made High Art with a very small budget, mostly in Brooklyn. I was still in grad school (as was the director), and I would go to set with my analog film camera, shoot the scene that needed to be shot, then drop film at a lab in Manhattan’s former photo district. When the 35mm film was ready, I would take it to the darkrooms at ICP (International Center for Photography) and work on the prints for hour and hours. Not only was I responsible for the Lucy Berliner character photo shoots, I was responsible for collecting images from other photographers to populate the FRAME universe. I asked many photographer friends thru grad school, working at SABA and the Camera Club of New York, to submit their work. I was vaguely planning to be a fine artist after completing grad school, and I really had no interest in pursuing film. I liked working with others, but I was also used to working solo. High Art began to change that path for me.

 
 

”I am still learning, which keeps it fresh.”

 
 

When did you first become interested in photography, and what sparked you interest in cinema?

It is difficult to say when the spark occurred or if it was more like a slow burn. In my first year of college, I had a work study job in the university’s photography department. It was run by 3 middle aged guys who all learned photography in the Navy. They gave me a camera, film, my own black & white darkroom and a wonderful education. They also gave me assignments around campus and guided me through the different chemical processes. I was always drawn to photography, but it was a combination of grit in going after what I wanted and the luck of finding opportunities along the way that lead me to my career. I never took a photography class until I was in graduate school many years later. Reuniting with my college friend in NYC years later and meeting her film friends drew me into the independent film world of the 1990’s. They all needed photographers, and I said yes to everything. I was involved in photography on many levels. I worked as a photo editor at a premium photo agency, I belonged to NYC’s oldest photography darkroom collective, I went to shows and curated shows, I went to grad school at ICP/NYU in photography and I taught photography. Photography/art/cinema all collided in NYC, and it wasn’t long after High Art came out that I was asked to shoot other independent films. I gradually immersed myself in the moving image and the art of cinema, as well as all camera arts. I am still learning, which keeps it fresh.

 

Philip Seymour Hoffman in “A Late Quartet”, 2012. 20th Century Fox. Photo by JoJo Whilden

 

How would you describe the independent film world of the 1990s as opposed to the American independent film scene of today?

I am not sure independent filmmaking in the 1990’s was as heavily branded as ‘Independent Film’ is today. The branding aspect flowed from the professionalization of Indie filmmaking production, as well as the inclusion of indie films in prestigious film festivals around the world which bestowed success and credibility on the films. New talent was discovered at festivals, and studio distribution created more career opportunities for some Indie filmmakers – actors, directors, producers. As social media came into existence in the early aughts, everything indie and celebrity was amplified. I am not saying this is good or bad, as I have had many films find their footing at film festivals and on social media, but the essence and cost of scrappy indie filmmaking has perhaps changed. Obviously the technology has changed as well. On the flip side, filmmakers are still making independent cinema all the time. Look at a film like the excellent Tangerine (dir. Sean Baker, 2015), which was shot on an iPhone, you can still feel the inventive and independent roots of the production, as well the director’s story and vision. Filmmakers will keep inventing ways to get their content or stories out into the world.

 

Paul Schneider directing “Pretty Bird”, 2007. Photo by JoJo Whilden

 
 

“For me, the idea of creating something is to make a statement,
which is possible with words, images, music, movement.”

 
 

Asa Butterfield in “Ten Thousand Saints”, 2015. Photo by JoJo Whilden

 
 

”We are encouraged to explore
our own artistic instincts and ‘photographic eye’
within the parameters of what the studio or production requires.”

 
 

Lily Gladstone in ”Certain Women”, 2016. Sonic Pictures Classics. Photo by JoJo Whilden

 

Raymond Cauchetier, the photographer of The French New Wave, said: “Artists are creators. I am a witness.” Do you agree? How do you yourself approach set photography?

That’s also a difficult question to address, with the quote as preamble. I think, to a certain extent, it is accurate to say photographers are witnesses or archivists to history – and I mean this in relation to authentic photography rather than AI photography. I worked at a photojournalist news agency my first few years in NYC and thought a lot about photographers as witnesses. I felt it very strongly during the events of 9/11, which happened less than a mile from where I lived. I literally made myself get my camera and go to the roof of my building to document the twin towers going down. It was extremely emotional and difficult, but I felt a responsibility to record history. Of course this was before everyone had a camera phone in their pocket. As for the creation of art, I think photographers can create art with their photographs. I don’t think there is any art form exclusively assigned to ‘fine artists.’

For me, the idea of creating something is to make a statement, which is possible with words, images, music, movement. In relation to set photography, I try to understand the script and story ideas, as well as the characters, so that I can create images that lend themselves to the story.

 

DP Frank DeMarco, John Cameron Mitchell and Nicole Kidman in “Rabbit Hole”, 2010. Olympus Pictures. Photo by JoJo Whilden

 

A unit photographer typically works alone on set, they are not part of a department. Does that give you, to a certain extent, the freedom to be more creative on set?

Although the still photographer is generally considered a department of one on set, due to our singular responsibilities, we are also a member of the camera team and the camera union (International Cinematographers Guild), and we work very closely with publicists and photo producers. However, while we are working on set, we are generally working alone albeit within the busy context of a film set. To a large extent, we are encouraged to explore our own artistic instincts and ‘photographic eye’ within the parameters of what the studio or production requires.

 

You have worked on great movies and tv series, from The Fighter and Certain Women to Scenes from a Marriage and Rabbit Hole. Is there any film you developed a special bond with?

I develop a special bond with all the projects to which I commit. I work best when I am a little in love with the project, including the characters and locations. Identifying favorites would be unfair and bad business!

 

Eddie Redmayne in “The Good Nurse”, 2022. Netflix. Photo by JoJo Whilden

 
 

”I think writing is the most underrated aspect of filmmaking.”

 
 

The OA, 2016. Photo by JoJo Whilden

 

Do you ever think: “I could have taken a better shot?”

Of course! Not sure if you mean that question as directed to myself or to other photographers, but YES to both. I often spend time thinking about how other photographers got their shot.

 

What would be one of your most difficult shots that you’ve had to take, if you don’t mind sharing the story behind the camera with us?

There have been many difficult shots. Technically, the hardest shots to get are the extremely graphic, centered shots where there is only room for one camera to get the ideal shot, and of course the motion picture camera takes precedence. I am looking for alternative camera positions that will work well with the set-up that is available, and, if I am lucky, sometimes I end up with a better perspective. It can be frustrating not to get the camera position I want, but this is an essential part of the craft.

Other past technical difficulties, which have become less a problem, include having enough light to get a proper exposure. When we all shot on film, we all had the same limitations dictated by the films speed. When digital cameras became prevalent in the nineties, the motion picture cameras light sensitivity far surpassed what was available in SLR PRO digital cameras in terms of ISO speed. The lag in development caused big exposure challenges for still photographers. Many cinematographers liked to experiment with the new digital tech by using minimal light and riding the very edges of an acceptable exposure or the blacks. I am glad to say the DSLR cameras have mostly caught up. The myriad of challenges shooting on film sets is universal and affect everyone working on a film set, and that includes working in extreme temperatures, difficult locations, very long hours and so on.

 

Frances McDormand in Olive Kitteridge, 2014. HBO. Photo by JoJo Whilden

 

How often does it happen that the filmmakers and studios choose the images you yourself would have picked to represent the films? Does your idea of what represents the film often differ than theirs or do you often find yourselves on the same page?

When I have the opportunity to make selects, I always do so that I can help shape which images get selected. I love when I am surprised in a good way by the images that are selected and how they are used. I try not to submit work that I don’t feel good about, and I am very aware of the iconic legacy film stills leave in the world. Look at the book you reference on LA locations. I had a brief look at it, and it seems almost entirely illustrated with films stills, likely created by set photographers.

 
 

”I am very aware of the iconic legacy
film stills leave in the world.”

 
 

Yes, often times film stills rather than the moving image is what endures in the public’s collective mind. You capture the moments of a performance live, during a take as it is unfolding, but also between takes, watching everything as that world is being made. How difficult is it to get close while keeping your distance on the set of a movie? One particular image of yours on the set of The Fighter comes now to mind, that of Christian Bale with fists in fighting position, with director David O. Russell by his side, clearly not during a take but with a Christian Bale completely immersed in his character.

In reference to Christian Bale on the set of The Fighter, CB always stayed in character. He would still communicate with the director and crew as CB, but he never dropped character on set. As for gaining intimacy and trust from actors and directors on set, it’s a skill that I have nurtured over many years. On David O Russell’s sets, there is quite often no other way to get my job done without making myself part of the small circle of people allowed on set. The sets could be quite small, and the camera could roam anywhere, so it is essential to be hyper aware of what is going on with everyone and to be out of their way, while still being friendly and professional.

 

Christian Bale and David O. Russell on the set of “The Fighter”, 2010. Paramount Pictures. Photo by JoJo Whilden

 

I always stay through the end credits and watch the names of the artists of so many crafts that came together to tell the same story. How would you describe your work relationship with the rest of the crew on a film?

I have worked in the industry for close to 25 years in NYC, so when I walk on set for a new project, chances are I know a lot of people. I am close with many of them, we have worked together, we have had lunch together and I have nothing but love and respect for the work they do. I am also active in my Guild, which is the International Cinematographers Guild (IATSE local 600).

 
 

”I rarely will leave a screening, even I don’t like it,
because I think there is always something for me to learn
from watching a poorly made film.”

 
 

What is the biggest misconception people have about Hollywood?

I am not sure how to answer this question because I don’t know if there is a single conception of what Hollywood is about. I think cinema is an art form and a commodity, and I can see it from both angles. As for the general movie watching population, I think people love stories and the comfort cinema can provide. I love the idea of people coming together with their various crafts to make a story, and I am also aware that it can cost a lot of money to make a movie, so there has to be some consideration of budgets and potential returns. Two dramatically different impulses by necessity must co-exist in filmmaking – art and commerce. However, the best cinema will always germinate from a clear and strong artistic vision as well as the need to tell an important story.

 

”The Fighter”, 2010. Paramount Pictures. Photo by JoJo Whilden

 
 

”I think people love stories and the comfort cinema can provide.”

 
 

Paul Giamatti, Billy Crudup and David Hornsby in “Pretty Bird”, 2008. Photo by JoJo Whilden

 

What does the movie theater experience mean to you? Why do movies still need cinemas? Could you share with us one of your most memorable cinema experiences?

I love going to the cinema. I adore being in a big dark theater with no distractions, good sound, a large screen and hopefully a comfortable seat. It’s always going to be the best way to see cinema. One of my early cinematic experiences was going to see Alfred Hitchcock’s Psycho when I was way too young – possibly 10 or 11. My mom would occasionally take us to see foreign films or art house films at a local college, and I suppose previous Hitchcock movies had not been so violent and scary. Needless to say, I was horrified by the shower scene and probably refused to shower for a few days following the screening.

 

And what is best film you’ve seen at the cinema lately?

The Brutalist, which I saw at the New York Film Festival.

 

Maura Tierney in “Diggers”, 2006. Photo by JoJo Whilden

 

JoJo, in this time and age, what do you wish people appreciated more?

If this question is in relationship to photography or filmmaking, I would say I wish people would appreciate how hard it is to make good photographs and meaningful films. I rarely will leave a screening, even I don’t like it, because I think there is always something for me to learn from watching a poorly made film. Sometimes I will sit through an entire series I hate watching so I can understand why it’s bad and what could have been done to make it better and I might learn something about myself and what I like or don’t like. I think writing is the most underrated aspect of filmmaking. Film and TV projects must have a solid, great script idea as a starting point or it’s very hard to recover. Amazing actors, smart directors and beautiful cinematography can all help cover up a trash script, but they cannot save it. In this sense, I also wish people who aspire to make art/film/photography should be able to read, write and have a compelling story to tell. Finally, in general, I wish Americans would invest more in arts, artists and education as a fundamental pillar of our culture and society, not as mere commercial enterprise.

 

Behind the scenes of “The Fighter”, 2010. Paramount Pictures. Photo by JoJo Whilden

 

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Why Bertrand Tavernier chose Romy as his first central female protagonist…, and Glasgow as location for his only film set in the future

Romy Schneider and Harvey Keitel in “Death Watch”, 1980, Gaumont International

 

I have watched Bertrand Tavernier’s films and I have read his book, Bertrand Tavernier’s Amis Américains: Entretiens avec les grands auteurs d’Hollywood, where he talks about so many films and so many filmmakers with the sheer enthusiasm of a cinephile, almost a childish enthusiasm, and also with the broad and deep knowledge of a filmmaker, but he wears that knowledge lightly. His dialogues about movies are like dialogues between friends, which, I believe, are always, always better than any official, critical review. Tavernier made his movies with that same sheer childish enthusiasm, in each new film driven more by the amazement of the unknown than by the confidence in his own craft or past experiences.

And now let’s get back four decades and to the director’s film about the future, Death Watch. Tavernier was part of a generation who read a lot of science fiction, but he could hardly find a novel he wanted to adapt. He was at a time in his career when he was seeking to attach more importance to characters than he had previously done, and to have them shape the narrative more than any other element. Sci-fi novels and films rarely did that, and they certainly didn’t do that with female characters. He found that character in David G. Compton’s The Unsleeping Eye, from 1974. A welfare world in the near future, when almost all diseases have been cured, except very few. Catherine Mortenhoe – who writes books obeying the orders of a computer – is one suffering from such disease, and becomes the object of media fascination. She tries to escape that, shutting off from the world and media attention in the green countryside, only to find herself filmed without her knowledge by a stranger whom she comes to trust, a reporter, Harvey Keitel, who had a camera implanted in his brain. More than a sci-fi, it is a cautionary tale for the future, our future, which has become our present today. The film’s reality TV voyeurism concept that has, in the meantime, taken a new shape, creeping into everyone’s lives with our own will and with the simple touch of our fingertips, is terrifyingly prescient.

But who could play “a woman who not only carried the drama’s moral outrage, but formed its emotional center as well”?

It was Romy. Romy Schneider opened up this opportunity for Bertrand Tavernier. Romy, who had taught another great French director, Claude Sautet, how to direct actresses and had awoken in him an interest in female characters. Romy, who possessed like no other a photogenic power and a radiant, mysterious and poetic beauty that was only made human by the vulnerability that she was never afraid to show. Incandescent, implacable, imperious, fiercely independent, Romy was the image of feminine beauty, power, freedom and frailty the way nobody else had ever had the courage to be.

Tavernier said, as quoted in the book Bertrand Tavernier: The filmmaker of Lyon, by Stephen Hay: “For me, she was like Antigone. She had everything that I could relate to. I needed to take a star – somebody very powerful, very lyrical; all those qualities which I found in Romy. She taught me not to cut too quickly, because she was always giving me moments at the end of the scenes which were so striking, so beautiful, so I let the camera roll. I think I opened up working with her. I already had the feeling, with Noiret or Galabru or Christine, of working with somebody inspired, and with Romy you could really touch it – the sense of somebody who was inspired during a take, and was suddenly going beyond what has been written. I had the feeling of exploring unknown places with her.”

As for the actual location of the film, the director, once again, went against the grain, eschewing all futuristic metropolis ideas and settings used in science fiction and simply placing his story and characters, and us, in Scotland, and Glasgow just as it was, in its battered look, dim reality and special light.

“I remember practically everybody in England saying that we were totally mad to shoot a film in Glasgow – that it was like going into the worst areas of the Bronx – and it was one of the happiest shoots I’ve ever had in my life; we never had any problems with people in the streets. I was going against most of the futuristic films of the time which always took place in very modern buildings, and which I felt were kind of cliché. I think you can have a story taking place twenty years from now where people are still living in a nineteenth century house. Why should they be destroyed? Why, as soon as you are writing something in the near future does everything have to be changed? You already have all the change contained in the story – technological change, social and scientific change – but certain things are still stable and it’s very interesting to oppose those two things. I love the look of Glasgow – I liked the look of the light in the streets. It’s the same thing that attracted me to Lyon – that it’s a mysterious city, that it has a certain look, and you have to go beneath the look and you discover many ideas.”

 

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“We are the postmen of the past who leave letters to those of the future”: In conversation with Ana Gurduza

Photo courtesy of Ana Gurduza

 

To be amazed is still possible. Gather round, it’s time for a story. A story that, in the spirit of the approaching holidays, flickers even brighter.

Ana Gurduza makes poetry… with her hands. With every piece of art, she reveals an ocean of feelings, a sensation of being. When talking to her, seeing her at work, or holding one of her objects in your hands, you can almost capture that fleeting feeling of being wild in the solitude of creation. Blue is the colour that moves her universe, just like it moves a child’s heart. With curiosity and wander, she leans into each day, each day a blank slate upon which she draws he story. Crafting each piece with precision and care, a long process that has no shortcuts, every idea flowing like uncharted waves. How beautiful it is, in this fast paced world, to slow down and surround yourself with meaningful pieces that are sure to illuminate any space, and the lives of those who inhabit it, with elegance and warmth.

In our conversation, Ana and I talk about objects that are made with soul, the fairy tale she feels must be shared with others, Constantin Brâncuși, and the story of the colour blue.

 

Photos courtesy of Ana Gurduza

 

Ana, when I look at your art I feel that one of the things that draws you to create is our own human kind, in all its complexity, uniqueness and ephemerality, all beautifully interwoven by the imaginary. Is that true?

I feel beauty in your curiosity, it questions the nature of artistic manifestation. Is the creative spirit an extension of the ephemeral and sensitive self or is it a separate body activated by the act of creation? Here I am reminded of the nature of the first photographic images that were exposed as art form, being categorized, phenomenologically speaking, as windows or mirrors. The window image is one oriented towards the outside, the seen world. The mirror is a reflection of the inner world put into image. I want to believe that I belong to those whose soul is a strainer through which actions, glances, acts can reflect an interior reality. People and objects are interpreted sensitively so that we can speak through them. It is an opportunity to play, to illuminate the dark nights, to transpose oneself into a story. That is to say, the object is more than an object, it is a portal between the one who creates, me (through whom the gift of grace flows, as ancient Greeks thought), and the one who looks, who possesses an inner alphabet for decrypting in different measures mirrors of the reality of people who questioned the status quo of the world through color, letters, notes, movements, materials, forms or ideas.

The imaginary is real, the proof of Homo Ludens, who has no other purpose than to spend this interval in flesh and blood, between birth and death. Everyone chooses their own imaginary. Some bring it from the future and dream of conquering the cosmic ethers, others come from the past and, like astronomers, tell stories about the light of stars that have burned long centuries ago but still shine their dead light. Both speak, in essence, of the intricate human nature, which dreams of the immaterial, of ideas, of states, of birds in the sky and depths of the oceans. The atemporal condition is taken by the act of creation, through which we gain the freedom of choosing to whom to be alike and get close to the image of divinity, surpassing time.

 
 

“I want to believe that I belong to those
whose soul is a strainer through which actions,
glances, acts can reflect an interior reality.”

 
 

What is your earliest drawing memory?

My earliest drawing memory is a flower of spring, at the legs of my sleeping mother. It was a dark day, with no time and no season, I was as a child, dreaming that I am sleeping, and while asleep drawing a flower. I tried to hear the dream of my mother, but she was dreaming that I am sleeping, and I was dreaming of a spring flower that I was firstly drawing.

 

You studied architecture. What came first, art or architecture?

This is indeed a complex question. Architecture is often regarded by us, humans, as a form of art – our way of shaping matter to create the protective shell we call A Place. Yet, if I were to categorize, distinguish, and compare the arts, I would argue that the classical arts hold a foundational position.

The earliest humans used music, painting, and pottery to engage with the world – not through ownership or belonging, but through a unique relationship of connection and representation. Unlike our modern approach, influenced by Renaissance logic and its focus on possession, early humans interacted with the world as observers and participants, not proprietors.
They conquered elephants, deer, and wild oxen not by physical force but by capturing their essence – their souls – through drawings. In doing so, they sought to understand and immortalize that ineffable something we call nature. They sang and chanted tales of imaginary gods and lions, transcending the boundaries of the biological world through word, sound, and dance. In these acts, they moved beyond the “here and now,” creating a bridge between the tangible and the intangible, the real and the imagined.

 

Photos courtesy of Ana Gurduza

 

What is the best thing about working with your hands?

My mind goes to the sculptor Constantin Brâncuși who thought that each material has its own language and we must work with them until others understand its language. I am guided by this quest for understanding the way the hand transforms the material from a nonliving matter to a shape filled with meaning.

For me, working with my hands means three things.

The wonder of encountering the unexpected. Material has its own will that it expresses and calls the fingers to a dance of creation and destruction. This closeness to divinity and the unexpected fascinates me. Most of the time, when I set out to create and transform the material in front, I don’t know exactly what I am aiming. The intention is strong but the shape is vague and undefined, leaving a lot of room for the wonder of unexpected. I believe writers, musicians, painters share the same miracle for the chance worn on a strong bone of the idea.

The relationship between thinking and making (creation), idea and execution, matter and movement. The imagination of the hand as an independent force, that it sometimes surpasses the one of the though and begins an independent life and sometimes submits to thinking. To speak the language of the matter you possess, to understand its character so that it flourishes in its most specific way. Just as you cannot sculpt pottery with a hammer, you cannot shape stone with your hands, but you work in the discovery of matter and the disposal of surplus, a reverse logic than in working with the earth. The life of the material and the hand that discovers it and adapts to it is what fascinates me.

Working with the hands, and especially in art, teaches you to be solitary, to be introspective and to question the multiple interrogations of your own self, which is then reflected in the art created. Solitude with the matter, the attention paid to a fragile object, which depends on the play of fingers, stimulates observation, attention, play, and creativity. You catch yourself frolicking in the field of childhood with your grandmother who no longer exists or climbing a tree of the future that will never grow.

 

Photo courtesy of Ana Gurduza

 
An artist once told me that, for inspiration, he doesn’t look at art, but rather at everything else. Who and what inspires and has inspired you the most?

I have never asked myself this question, thank you.

I know I never did create a border between a place, a person, an object that is inspiring as a category in itself and another that is not. I believe, for me, inspiration is a result of intentionality through a search, it does not need to be methodical, algorithmically or logic, it is closer to an observer in a boat. In the state of search, especially in an induced observation and non-thinking pulse, all outside and inside become generative. It can be a tree, a story, a piece of art, a person, a lover or a smell. In this referential construction, the outside rather leaks into me, with very little control on my part. As I like to say, I have a thin skin, the outside penetrates easily and anchors itself deeply in me. But I am reminded that we only love what is different from us, even if in our attempt to domesticate, we want to (un)resemble the other. But the more we get closer, the more it becomes known, and paradoxically we need another angle to see it and to outstrange the world again. Or it is consumed, and this we call the death of a project, fulfilling by exhaustion the subject. Sometimes I feel the need to estrange the known world to me.

We believe that the truth can be possessed by the other and this stranger attracts us, that is, different from our own essence. Everything that is unknown to me inspires me, because it throws me into being a child, into not knowing and being able to see differently. That’s why we squint when we paint, that’s why we distance ourselves from works we love, and sometimes from people. But this is one of the thousands of attitudes in the face of life, which I will leave as soon as spring comes to me and painfully takes off my skin to permit a new happiness and wet another way of seeing.

 
 

”We are the postmen of the past who leave letters to those of the future,
telling about us, how we loved and how we brought joy to the earth.”

 
 

When we are no longer children, we are already dead,” said Brâncuși. I usually ask my artist guests their favourite books from when they were children. But I would like to ask you if now, as an adult, you have favourite children’s books.

I have a few favorite children’s books, but one that I come to again and again is Youth Without Old Age and Life Without Death. This fairy tale resonates deeply with me—not only through its connection to Romanian culture, but also because it touches on profound aspects of what we call humanity. Its timeless theme of the longing for immortality, the refusal to fully embrace the human condition, and the quest for eternity is one I’ve often explored in conversations with adults.

The interpretations I’ve encountered range widely—from parallels with the story of Christ, to notions of reincarnation, to the enduring essence of the immortal soul that resists becoming human again and experiencing suffering. To me, this story transcends age; it carries a depth that makes it equally meaningful for both children and adults. It’s a tale that deserves to be shared, offering a space for reflection and connection across generations.

 

Photo courtesy of Ana Gurduza

 

I am particularly fascinated by your ink lines, how through this economy of means you can create images that are so honest, powerful and filled with emotion. You work in different mediums: drawing, ink line, watercolor. Is there any medium you prefer more, and why?

All these expressions are a luxury I allow myself as a small atelier, which can very quickly learn from mistakes, experiment, change and create through different means intentionality of sensation. It’s the privilege I get when I’m not attached to opinions and can follow desires and growth as an experiment. The idea is to make as many mistakes as possible and try what my spirit desires.

I see work as an inventive exploration that generates as a main intention ideas that are nonmaterial, that transform the structure of understanding the world, using as a tool materials, forms, stories, words, colors etc. That is to say, surpassing the biological condition of being a human. These means are only possible if you allow yourself to be a child, to be mistaken, ridiculous, to not be yourself.

Lines, shapes, colours, have the same role, be it in ceramics, graphic or painting, to be able to tell and touch another, who maybe by chance, out of the corner of the eye goes through the same state of the soul. It is just like a written book that has meaning and is only realized when it reaches the man who reads it. These two make sense together, the communication takes place between me-the creator and the man-perceiver who reads this expression, which is not mine but ours, it is in the interstice between us, or so I wish it to be. This dialogue is different but equally telling through each of the above mediums.

All these imaginations and memories put together converge in a collective proto-memory that each new century pours out, it lives in each of us. We are the postmen of the past who leave letters to those of the future, telling about us, how we loved and how we brought joy to the earth. I am one of the transmitters of this human protomemory, my purpose is to bring joy to others, through any medium I find interesting.

Ceramics results in a special, unique and, as I like to say, immortal object. It seeks to beautify life. Pottery made in workshops is not utilitarian by nature, objects are made with soul, the artist is completely dedicated to each individual object, each one is touched, cared for and goes through all the arduous processes. An author’s object is a slow object, invested with intention and joy. That is why it is a precious one, for people who want unique pieces and intend to contribute to the beauty of our century.

 

 
 

”Working with the hands, and especially in art,
teaches you to be solitary, to be introspective.[…]
You catch yourself frolicking in the field of childhood
with your grandmother who no longer exists or
climbing a tree of the future that will never grow.”

 
 

Photos courtesy of Ana Gurduza

 

I do believe that objects that are made with love and care can bring joy to daily life, to the people who surround themselves with beautiful things on a daily basis. Can you name a couple of objects in your home (not created by you) that have a special meaning and which you could never part with?

I think I could part with any object, but any parting would hurt me.

The beauty we surround ourselves with, through objects, creates a circle of sensations—filled with sounds, textures, thresholds, images, and memories. It resides in the height of a window that appears ever-changing or the house that shapes a sense of place. This beauty belongs to the essence of being; it is the mysterious interplay between the actual object, the way we remember it, and the consciousness that reimagines it. In essence, beauty transforms the imaginary into a constructed reality. Through these objects, we give form and meaning to the world, connecting them to childhood memories and the comforting image of familiarity.

Beauty and objects speak to the essential care of oneself. They engage the faculties of sensation, imagination, and perception, which enable our participation in the world. The objects we gather around us merge two dimensions: the mental—formed by perceptions and memories that shape the experience of lived spaces—and the physical, embodied in the house and the city as sources of sensation. These objects also open the door to an imagined world, projecting desires and nostalgia. They anchor us to fixed points, reflecting our aspirations and the longing of the self as we navigate life on this earth.

 
 

“We live a maximum of biological comfort that disregards
appreciation of beauty (not that of hyper aestheticization).
In this deliberate abstraction, we live a small hour of a small life.”

 
 

Could you tell us more about your Blue Series? How did that idea come to be?

My heart loves blue.

This color has a special story. Due to its rarity in nature, blue has a shorter history than the other colors. Blue belonged to something volatile and unattainable like the sky and the sea, both unfathomable. The Greeks did not have a special name for this colour (other than the colour of the sea and sky). The Egyptians used it, from the dust of the stone Lapis lazuli (heaven stone), which arrived in Europe (Italy) only in the Early Middle Ages. Being the most expensive and fine pigment, brought precisely from the region of Afghanistan (this is where the name ultramarine comes from, i.e. the pigment brought from overseas) it was used for the absolutely special elements, such as the mantle of the Virgin, for Giotto’s blue sky in the Basilica of Saint Francis from Assisi or precious details that marked a special character. In the early Renaissance, the Venetian church established a monopoly on blue, with strictures on where and how it could be used; had become a symbol color. It is the same blue that, given its preciousness, was used in the fresco seco technique, that is, as a later layer added over the raw fresco, which caused the deterioration of the blue (and gold) pigment on medieval and renaissance frescoes.

Today we cannot imagine a world without blue, in gradients and shades. I bring the same elogy to the symbol-color, the sky-colors, walking upwards, through the especially deep blue of cobalt oxide. It is a stable pigent, what for me has something immaterial that surpases my condition of being human.

 

You’ve made me wonder of why so many children, when you ask them about their favourite colour, they say it’s blue. I don’t think it’s a coincidence.

I am amused and delighted by your question, which is as playful as the choice of childish blue. I think it is somewhere imprinted in us, those belonging to the sea and waters. Perhaps it is no coincidence that Siberians have multiple words for snow, in their need to accurately describe the state of nature that defines their living. And we have a multitude of words for emotions, while my heart and the children’s one have multiple latitudes of the ancestral blue.

 

Photos courtesy of Ana Gurduza

 

Have you ever considered creating a film poster? Not any film poster, though. The films of Jean Cocteau, for example, they immediately sprang into my mind, I would love to see your take on one of his films.

I love your questions, they provoke me and raise thoughts of a potential future, that in my mind is so close to what you propose, a renaissance of entanglement between arts and mediums.

Actually, I was invited by a friend, a film director and actor in the cultural scene of Romania and Moldova, whose work I admire a lot, Nicolae Gaburici, to make the poster for his movie that is still in the works. I saw parts of it and got inspired by the poetic imagistic and opportunity to be part of the story that, as we know, looking from the future to the past holds the miracle of creation and becomes part of the history of things.

 

Winged Words: Illustrated Romanian Proverbs, with illustrations by Ana Gurduza

 

I am looking forward to seeing your work for the film. Tell me, Ana, in this time and age, what do you wish people appreciated more?

Fantastic question. I think that if I had a wish for humanity in the horizon of this time, to the extent of our power of appreciation, I would wish for us as people of this earth to appreciate and seek the state of presence.

I think that our forms of absorption in reality prevail, and we no longer like to be in the present, to be bored, to look up at the falling leaves. We live a maximum of biological comfort that disregards appreciation of beauty (not that of hyper aestheticization). In this deliberate abstraction, we live a small hour of a small life.

André Gide tells us: “For you I write these pages, I who no longer feel the taste of the earth, cause you, my reader, are not surprised enough of that you are alive, you do not admire at it’s height the miracle that is your life.”

 
 

”Everything that is unknown to me inspires me,
because it throws me into being a child,
into not knowing and being able to see differently.”

 
 

Website: arsana.art | Instagram: @ars__ana

 

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December newsletter: Winged Words and The Dolomites on Film

Photos: Benj Story

 
 

”I call it Forest therapy, everything here inspires me,
the sounds, the air, the sunlight reaching in.
Every forest is enchanted I believe,
it has its own music and a magic power.”

Realign

 
 

Left: Film poster for “Il était une fois Michel Legrand”, 2024
Right: Winged Words: Illustrated Romanian Proverbs

 

Viewing

Il était une fois Michel Legrand (Once Upon a Time: Michel Legrand), 2024
David Hertzog Dessites

Michel Legrand’s music left an indelible mark on the world of film and music and it is the music that takes us on the journey of the man in the documentary Il était une fois Michel Legrand.

 

8 femmes, 2002
François Ozon

A deliberate look of a 1950s Hollywood film and the iconic presence of French cinema stars, from Danielle Darrieux and Catherine Deneuve to Fanny Ardant and Isabelle Huppert. François Ozon’s comedy musical-mystery set in an isolated mansion during a white Christmas is a celebration of French and world cinema.

 

Three Days of the Condor, 1975
Sydney Pollack

I’ve made a habit of watching this film over the holidays, and here it is why.

 

The Holdovers, 2023
Alexander Payne

The Holdovers may be set in a New England prep school, during a snowy winter break, but it wouldn’t be fair to call it a Christmas movie. Alexander Payne’s uncanny vision makes sure to avoid sentimentality and to remain honest to the very end, by steering from humour to drama and back again. The Holdovers is a film interested in human beings and allows room for everyone to behave in an unconforming manner, to disagree and still find a way to stick together and like the person next to them, on a different level, a more human level. I think we miss that in human relationships on screen, probably in life as well. That’s why it is a film one can watch time and time again, regardless of the time of year. After it premiered last year, I repeatedly sang its praise, and even got to talk to production designer Ryan Warren Smith about the transportive recreation of the 70s and settling the characters, and us the viewers, in that world, and The Holdovers scene that we both absolutely love, and to costume designer Wendy Chuck about how Paul, Angus and Mary’s clothes become the fundamental pieces to put their stories on. I can not wait to watch the film again and for that scene with Labri Siffre’s Crying Laughing Loving Lying playing in the background that truly has the power to make you feel you are witnessing something special.

 

Home Alone. Every. Single. Year. It’s a classic.

 

Reading

I was recently mesmerised by the new graphic rendition of one of the world’s greatest literary achievements, Lord of the Flies, with illustrations by Aimée de Jongh.

 

Cuvinte înaripate: Proverbe ilustrate româneşti (Winged Words: Illustrated Romanian Proverbs), a book that’s sharp for the mind, good for the soul and beautiful for the eye, featuring the unique illustrations of Ars Ana, whom I am looking forward to welcoming as a guest here on Classiq Journal later this week.

 

This wonderfully uplifting book: Sophie Blackall’s Things to Look Forward To.

 

A few favourite children’s books that are for every age: The Flying Classroom (The Holdovers bears a certain reminiscence of it), by Erich Kästner, The Polar Express, by Chris van Allsburg, The Snowman, by Raymond Briggs, Letters from Father Christmas, by J.R.R. Tolkien.

 

Listening

The soundtrack: Il était une fois Michel Legrand

 

The album: Liam Gallagher MTV Unplugged

 

Making

A beautiful winter collaboration: The Enchanted Forest – Classiq Journal x Realign

“Real eyes realize we realign. We grow our future from our inner world. This time I chose moonlight and water as my brush and paper, with a new take on watercolor for me. Forest is my home and fungi my companions, where I heal, where I feel whole. I call it Forest therapy, everything here inspires me, the sounds, the air, the sunlight reaching in. Every forest is enchanted I believe, it has its own music and the magic power to connect you to your true self.

Walk these paths without worries of getting lost, with gentle movements in a safe and sacred space, stretching and unstretching your perception of reality. Align perception with intention. I realign with love for planet, people, life. We all do, I am You.” – Realign

 

… and making a note for playtime with Vertigo playing cards or the Macmillan Alice in Wonderland pack of playing cards, with the original illustrations by John Tenniel but now variously and beautifully coloured by Harry Theaker, John Macfarlane and Diz Wallis.

 

Exploring

The mountain scapes of Benj Story. The way Benj captures the mountains year round (I’ve always said that the mountains in summertime and hugely underrated) has a timeless appeal and quiet beauty. And this travel guide, The Dolomites on Film, would make for the best unexpected gift.

 

The regulars: The interviews, newsletters and podcasts I turn to every week and/or every month because they are that good. Fashion Neurosis, with Bella Freud. Craig Mod’s newsletters: Roden and Ridgeline. Soundtracking, with Edith Bowman. Alicia Kennedy’s newsletter. Racquet’s Rennae Stubbs tennis podcast. Gone to Timbuktu with Sophy Roberts. Wachstumsversuche, with Sarah Schill. Sirene Journal, Racquet, and Waves & Woods in print.

 

The Enchanted Forest print illustration available in the shop, a Classiq Journal x Realign collaboration

 

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In conversation with Matt Needle

 

Aided by a sharp eye for detail and a perfect distillation of the “less is more approach” to poster design, illustrator and graphic designer Matt Needle champions an artistic sensibility seldom seen nowadays. He specialises in editorial illustration, key art and movie posters, where he wisely seeks to favour any design that best conveys a given film’s theme or narrative through effective visual representation, while remaining attuned to the mood of the times. Whether it’s for each and every one of the 25 Bond films, or Yorgos Lanthimos’ Poor Things, he always finds the kernel of an idea or a concept that engages and entices us to watch the film. I have recently talked with Matt for Beneficial Shock! magazine about why the process is more thrilling than the finished work, useful skills he picked up at design school and the Fellini film he wishes he could have done the official poster for.

 

Could you define the philosophy or approach of your work, Matt?

Everything I work on has the same fundamental approach and end goal. I seek to create something that presents a familiar subject matter in a different light. Whether that’s a gig poster, alternative film artwork, book cover or some other graphic/image making endeavour. Take for example an alternative film poster, of which I work on as self initiated projects in between client work, I love to experiment and create something that’s an expression / personal visual response to the familiar material, hopefully an approach that is intriguing and aesthetically different from what’s out there already.

 

You can read the full interview here.

 

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